Question which has spoilt me.
Question which has spoilt me.
As the person hard wounded on housing front,
Rather I am interested, that, how much and on what change on the Kemerovo
The habitation market. Give now together we will look through newspapers of the free
Personals - we will orient under the prices, we will counterbalance the
Requirements with the possibilities also we will essentially be defined,
Whether we will address for the help in rieltorskie firms or we will solve
The problems without extraneous participation.
Problem on ingenuity.
It is given: 3 clod. "hr" in Kirovsk r-not, 1/5, 6/43/56 (it is registered 5
The person, from which 2 - juvenile children), apartment cost
Order of 300 thousand roubles.
Question: whether this ex-family will exchange the apartment for three
Living spaces in the same area, not infringing thus interests of children?
Answer variants: on two one-room apartments plus KGT,
On two private houses with small percent of deterioration plus KGT, on
Three shabby private houses or habitation of barrack-type type.
If you have an additional variant, means, you already quite
Have ripened to open own rieltorskuju firm. By the way,
Those in Kemerovo for today it is registered more
Hundreds. And the considerable quantity of complaints of citizens in department
Licensings last year has arrived on
Not qualified actions rieltorskih firms at registration
Transactions with the real estate. Considering, that coming into force with 10
February of this year the Federal law "About licensing..." In general
Relieves realtors of necessity to licence the
Activity, incompetent and dishonourable people among them
Becomes it is even more.
Having rung round a considerable quantity rieltorskih firms with the offer
To solve already mentioned in the beginning zubodrobilnuju a problem with exchange
My three-room apartment in Kirovsk area, I was convinced, that
The approach to the potential client everywhere is practically identical: on them
To opinion, your apartment costs much more cheaply, than you
Assume, and for that, that you are going to to buy, it is necessary to you
To pay on a maximum.
In several firms to me have opaquely hinted, that quite
Can issue the most desirable for me exchange of this apartment
On three "gostinki" and even in more prestigious areas, than
Kirov (all the same KGT is to you not an izba on kurih legs and
Not in a barrack!).
Irina Nikolaevna Alaferovskaja, the realtor of the Kemerovo state of emergency
"Rynzina O. B", advises to me, as, however, and all other
To clients not to accept such offers, it is as though tempting they
Sounded. That KGT are on sale, bought and made out as
It is necessary and on everybody, it is known to everything, however respecting
The firm will never offer you of doubtful transactions, and
Especially when business concerns legitimate rights of your child. Personally
For me the variant of the stage-by-stage has seemed to the optimal
Exchange of my three-room apartment - to begin with on 2-roomed and
KGT, having settled out the scandalously most-basic proprietor.
Usually firms reluctantly undertake similar transactions, as
Fast money for them you will not earn. However if, for example,
My exchange was absolutely indisputable, I would prefer to be engaged in it
Independently, instead of to overpay money to realtors. As
Practice shows, that the variant which has been picked up independently,
Always more cheaply, than what to you will be offered by firm.
As to the prices for habitation, them rasklad, judging by rieltorskim
To tables in advertising weekly journals, it is rather whimsical and
It is unpredictable. For example, three absolutely identical apartments in
The same house on street Nogradsky are exposed on sale one
For 23, another for 29, the third c.u. for 56 thousand Or - 1-roomed street
Square in Kirovsk - 260, 2-roomed street of square there 245 and
3-roomed street of square - 290 thousand roubles.
And here to you, please, directly and KGT - 18 sq. m on.
Builders, 137, for 140 thousand, 14 sq. m - on Lenin, 90, for 95 thousand
And 12 sq. m - on Dzerzhinsky, 9п , for 90 thousand roubles. It on
To what right, people kind?! I address the same question and mine
To interlocutor Irina Alaferovsky.
Green light to the black broker?
- Situation with "gostinkami" really paradoxical, -
She speaks. - and never leaves sphere of influence black
Brokers, while a question with transfer KGT to the property of citizens not
It will be solved at legislative level. As though to officials not
It would be desirable to recognise it, but the given habitation for today
Is the most accessible and desired for many citizens. In
Any case, until system of the long-term
Crediting for improvement of living conditions it will not be developed
So, that it all solvent can use
Citizens, instead of their separate categories.
- Irina as you think, whether it is artificial razduty on
Today of the price for habitation?
- The iron law of the market - the goods costs exactly so much, for how much
He can be sold. Any realtor, certainly, exposes on
Sale your apartment taking into account cost of the services, but on the general
Picture of the developed prices it practically does not influence. At
Drawing up of the contract with the realtor on purchase and sale of yours
The real estate all should be stipulated accurately enough. If
Your transaction is indisputable to cost more expensively 5 thousand roubles it not
Should. This money usually suffices on all costs for registration
Package of documents. But there are such cases, when the client,
For example, wishes to get habitation in other city and to the realtor
It is necessary to leave personally there, and repeatedly, for selection
Variants. Such complete set of services can cost from 5 to 10 thousand
Roubles.
- And how much is illegal official registration of papers on KGT?
- From 15 to 25 thousand roubles, and process of registration
Occupies a lot of time. On the buyer at first
Make out any real estate, for example, the house, make out
The transaction in justice establishment, giving to it thus quite
Lawful kind, and then change this house on KGT. Probably, is and
Other ways. In any case the person buying KGT, risks in
One unfortunate day to remain both without money, and without habitation.
- Of that we should be careful and than be guided,
Addressing for the help in rieltorskie firms, which at us, as
It is known, multitudes?
- Be guided by common sense and be afraid of nothing.
Irina Nikolaevna gives council quite good, but, for example, in a case with
kemerovchankoj Anna Ivanovnoj Chernovoj absolutely useless.
Have got, as hens in oshchip!
To Anna Ivanovne 72 years. To it vnuchat to nurse, instead of on militias
To run. However it is necessary. The situation is not in brief that.
One year ago dear Anna Ivanovna sells 2-roomed
Apartment around "Rainbow" also gets through the Kemerovo firm
"Sibrielt-LtD" a flat in the same area, but is cheaper, with that
That on the remained money to improve habitation of the daughter and to grandsons.
She has preliminary examined apartment and remained it quite
It is happy.
According to the contract of advance payment from April, 10th, 2001 firm
"Sibrielt-LtD" undertakes to provide cleanliness and confidentiality
The given transaction, and gr Chernova A.I. in turn undertakes
To bring 30 thousand roubles on account of thousand roubles - costs
2-roomed apartment to the address:
Avenue of Miners, 22-23. Also registration terms There and then make a reservation
Transactions - till April, 20th, 2001.
The realtor of firm Tatyana Nikolaevna Borisova takes with gr. Draught
Under simple receipts by hand 170 thousand roubles also offers
To drive in apartment. Anna Ivanovna, certainly, runs at full speed
To admire the real estate got by it and catches for
Heart. Such she had to see only during war after
Bombardments - windowpanes and entrance doors are beaten out (the interroom
In general have disappeared), a toilet bowl in a non-working status, a bowl and
Tile on kitchen are broken, cranes and amalgamators are removed,
Sockets and electroconducting are torn out with a root, linoleum
No... Whom another quite perhaps kondrashka hvatanul,
And Anna Ivanovna, having recovered the breath and having cleared the throat, has called mechanics with
Electricians and in general has started repair.
Soon the former owner of apartment at this time of night has visited it and
In rather categorical form began to demand money.
"What money?" - Anna Ivanovna has got a fright and
Has shown buzoteru receipts of the realtor. Still through
Some days in Anna Ivanovny's apartment in its absence
There is a fire, which sad results - traceless
Disappearance of the 15 thousand roubles hidden in a sofa, hopeless
Damage of all property, including warm winter clothes, and б destruction
Liked in what not a guilty cat.
Thus relations with the realtor develop at Anna Ivanovny on
To rather intense scenario. Borisov insists on, that
CHernova has brought lacking 10 thousand roubles on registration
Documents, and Anna Ivanovna refuses, referring to the emergency
Status of apartment and suffered in this connection losses.
Now from emotions we will pass directly to documents.
The letter gr-ke A.I.draught signed by deputy chief OVD
Administrations of Miner r thow Kemerovo the lieutenant colonel of militia
O.P.Martsenjuk:
"I inform, that your statement upon an apartment arson on purpose
Plunders of money resources has proved to be true also the decision from
28.06.01 WITH at OVD Miner area of Kemerovo is raised
Criminal case N 30232. About the decision accepted on it to you will be
It is informed in addition ".
And here, by the way, and the additional report behind the signature
The chief of investigatory department L.V. potapovoj:
"14.08.01 criminal case N 30232 has been suspended under the item
195 items 3 UPK RSFSR (in connection with neustanovleniem the person who are subject
To attraction as accused) ".
Anna Ivanovna suspects of theft of money and an arson
Apartments of unbalanced mister already mentioned by us -
The former owner of ill-starred apartment. Now it
Is in SIZO on business to us unknown and us not kasaemomu, and it
Mother and sister with the small child a grief mykajut and bitter we cry cry,
As:
"So-called Borisov last year has taken away from all of us documents
On apartment and to these yet does not give us money. We now
We live in settlement the Hog to such address and documents on
The given habitation at us too is not present. On January, 31st this year to us came
Representatives from gorelektroseti also have warned, that on this house
Debts for two years and if we do not extinguish it will be
Energy is disconnected. I try to phone to Borisovoj, but
Without results. To search for it at me there is no possibility, as at
Me job and the small child. I ask you, help,
Please ".
Anna Ivanovna, as the person rather responsible, though and not
Has documents on the apartment bought by it, however has insisted on
Volume that workers ZHEKa have opened the personal account on her name, and
Accurately brings a rent.
What does Tatyana Nikolaevna Borisova think of all it? It,
By the way, anywhere from a field of vision of law enforcement bodies not
Vanishes and still works in firm "Sibrielt-LtD". nesmotrja
On numerous telephone conversations, from a meeting with the journalist
It has evaded, and a situation with gr.
On the draught has commented approximately as follows: "This
The grandmother in a mental hospital should be treated. It of workers BTI in apartment
Does not start up also money for registration of apartment does not give ".
Impressions of mentally abnormal person Anna Ivanovna
Personally on me has not made. Quite such, whether know, pleasant,
Fairly clever and very polite elderly woman. To workers BTI, on it
To words, it never any obstacles repaired. They already
Have visited its apartment about what have given out the corresponding inquiry. And
To give disputable 10 thousand roubles Anna Ivanovna is not going to, so
As the firm from its part has not provided cleanliness,
Confidentiality of the transaction. To defend the interests it now
namerena of court also it is convinced, that the truth on its party.
Now we will listen to comments of the chief of investigatory department
OVD Miner area of Kemerovo Ljubovi Valerevny potapovoj:
"You know, I first very much sympathised with Anna Ivanovne.
Any realtors have deceived and have gathered the elderly woman! But, as
It has appeared, all not so is simple... In the given transactions participated not
One, and two firms - "Sibrielt-LtD" and "Avant-guard plus". Apartment, in
Which has driven CHernova, was not privatised, so, not
Could be at the moment of the conclusion of the contract object of purchase and sale.
The house in settlement the Hog, the transaction on which was made out by firm
"The avant-guard plus" as it was found out, is not subject to privatisation, and
Family earlier living in him Floral now in general has appeared
In the street.
It turns out, that if now the court recognises all these transactions
Illegal with what they, as a matter of fact, also are, two families
Will return to the habitation, and in the street there will be already a pensioner
CHernova. The most surprising, that all participants of these transactions,
Switching on and CHernovu, fine knew, that they are illegal. However
Benefit seemed them so obvious, that they have agreed to move down
From the habitation, not having received documents on new ".
In all this history at me, the person foreign and not
Interested in unexpectedly to discredit
Business reputation of firm "Sibrielt-LtD" and its realtor Borisovoj,
There are following questions. Why, for example, the firm has not terminated
The contract about inobservant obligations gr. Draught and not
Has returned it money for not taken place transaction?
In this case the firm would be even in "gain", having left in the
Advantage on quite lawful bases stipulated 30 thousand roubles.
Or has not offered Draft other equivalent habitation? Why firm
"Avant-guard plus", received from Borisovoj money for the transaction in
Settlement the Hog, has thrown on an arbitrariness of destiny a family Floral?
And now let's present, that our already elderly heroine from
All these sad events suddenly yes will fall ill? Cried then and
Money, both apartment, and heir-at-laws Anna Ivanovny Chernovoj.
But we at all do not wish it it. As we do not wish also anybody
From our readers to get to the situations which are far beyond
Both common sense, and the current legislation.
Svetlana ERSHOV.
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//* an information Source: Kuzbas (Kemerovo), 9.02.02
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